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Reviewer: Naurolim Anonymous Liked [Report This]
Date: 10/19/2009 - 01:24 am Title: Chapter 3

Wow this story has me so conflicted. It's actually the sign of a great author that you can provoke all these emotions in a reader.

As always your story is well written and thought out. I really liked the way that you have Spike use the Firoud as I often wondered why he would just sit there and take everything Xander said and did, especially in the period just after he was chipped.

The conflict part is that I don't actually like this Spike and am finding him just a bit too cruel even for a season 3 Spike. I really get that S6 Spike was a whipping boy and that needed to change but I'm not sure that heaping more emotional abuse onto a trauma survivor is a good thing. That's more Angelus' thing, Don't get me wrong cannon S6 Buffy wasn't my fav (she was so bitchy to Spike) but I could get that she suffered a huge trauma and had no help to recover - she really needed post traumatic counselling.

That being said you gave a warning re the content and I have chosen to read on as I do actually love your writing and the creativity you put into your stories. So like I said conflicted. (I guess I am really a fluffy fan at heart LoL)

So hugs and keep up the great writing and I will keep reading as your stories are well worth the occasional "ouch that's a bit harsh"

Author's Response: She does need counselling, but love and forgiveness only made her worse. If you put a man into Buffy's role in S6 and a woman into Spike's, it would be horrific. This Spike is actually being more kind than she was. And he has an agenda. :D I too am a fluffy fan at heart and things will get better. Trust me.

Reviewer: ghostofsnickerdoodle Anonymous Liked [Report This]
Date: 10/19/2009 - 12:32 am Title: Chapter 3

Nice writing. I found the Firoud thing funny, but I'm not really sure Xan deserves the abuse. It's not like throwing a can of soda at Spike's head was really going to do much damage. And, at least in this story, he came across Buffy trying to push Spike away before he started making insults.

Interesting, too that Spike's so concerned with convincing Buffy of his ability to love, even when he's insistent that he no longer wants her for anything other than a good time.

Author's Response: It's not for the can of soda. Spike had already set things up with the Firoud. It's payback for all the other times when S6 Spike never retaliated. And, yeah, Spike's conflicted as well. :D I'm glad you're liking it! Thank you!

Reviewer: PhotographyNut Anonymous Liked [Report This]
Date: 10/19/2009 - 12:12 am Title: Chapter 3

Not blaming Buffy for losing her temper. Can't wait to read more!

Author's Response: Canon never seems to realize how dangerous Spike could really be if he wanted to - and right now he's just playing. :D

Reviewer: AMI Signed Liked [Report This]
Date: 10/18/2009 - 10:55 pm Title: Chapter 3

LOL I loved Spike sendind the Firoud after Xander. He totally deserves it. He's a big coward the way he treats chipped Spike. I'm so glad Spike isn't taking any more crap from him. I don't know why they all thought Spike was so defanged when he could have sent demons after them anytime. And he didn't ,cause he was changing. But they never saw that.They were all blind and prejudiced IMO.
And now Buffy is off to save Xander, it's like Spike said he's a big pussy. *smirk*
Oh Spike's last line was harsh! Yeah I think she's missing her little lap dog. lol

Evil cliffie! Can't wait to see what happens next. LOVED IT!

PS : Don't let some of the reviews get you down..you did warn people it would be a little un PC and this is S3 Spike so it's not puppies and lollipops. Tell your story the way you like, cause it's GREAT! And really Spike could be a lot worse. :)

Author's Response: Thank you! I'm so glad you're enjoying it! I'm so glad I put up that warning, because of the problems some people are having. But if you think about it, canon S6 was a lot worse with how abusive Buffy was. Spike's nowhere near that here.

Reviewer: betty Anonymous Liked [Report This]
Date: 10/18/2009 - 10:37 pm Title: Chapter 3

This story is as readable and entertaining as your others , but it still has me on edge, because it is very intense. I rather wish Buffy wasn't confronting Spike in order to fight Xander's battles -- and that her self-loathing weren't making her so nasty in this one (I like your young innocent willing to learn Buffys and your sane, regretful grieving Buffys -- but this damaged, miserable, self-righteous Buffy, not so much).

Plus this looks like it's going to be going somewhere ugly pretty fast. I actually appreciate the cliffie, annoyingly placed though it is, because I fear that the resulting fight/ sexual encounter between these two is going to be horribly harsh, with so little respect and so much mutual disdain going on.

However, I'm hanging in here with this story because I trust you to turn these awful relationship dynamics around somehow (hopefully with a little communication and with both of them waking up to their true feelings sooner rather than later). More please? Do we really have to wait til tomorrow? (Just kidding).

Author's Response: I'd never really tried canon-Buffy in S6 before and this story is because I wanted to understand her. Replacing passive S6 Spike with aggressive S3 Spike makes her look at herself. They will be communicating, so the sexual encounter won't be as bad as you fear, though a little violent, sort of like 'Smashed'. They do respect each other underneath and it’s more mutual than destructive.

Reviewer: TJ Anonymous Liked [Report This]
Date: 10/18/2009 - 10:29 pm Title: Chapter 3

I like watching Spike stand up for himself, but I miss the romantic lovelorn Spike too. I'm interested in seeing where your story goes. :) Keep going please.

Author's Response: This is Season 3 Spike and he doesn't know what he feels for Buffy. Romantic Spike will have a look in. :D I'm so glad you're liking it! Thank you!

Reviewer: Pam S Anonymous Liked [Report This]
Date: 10/18/2009 - 10:26 pm Title: Chapter 3

Being a little redundant here.. But I do like this Spike.. And I did like Xander in the beginning of BtVS but they made him such a wimp and a jerk at the same time.

Like your little demons.. Firouds..

Author's Response: Yeah, he started out nice and then they spoiled him. I'm fond of those Firoud. :D They're useful in so many ways, so they keep turning up. I'm so glad you're liking this! Thank you!

Reviewer: cordykitten Signed Liked [Report This]
Date: 10/18/2009 - 10:22 pm Title: Chapter 3

Now Buffy is missing her 'old' Spike. Nor sure how it will work with the 'new'/'younger' one but Buffy will appreciate having the more friendly Spike back.
And Xander is there to learn a lesson. But he isn't at the moment. That was a clever way of getting back to Xander.
But now Buffy is after Spike; not so good. I wonder how this will turn out.

Author's Response: She'll really appreciate S6 Spike now. :D I'm glad you're enjoying it!

Reviewer: PhotographyNut Anonymous Liked [Report This]
Date: 10/18/2009 - 07:48 pm Title: Chapter 2

Just found your fic. Payback is one thing but I think Spike went a little bit overboard. Can't wait for more!

Author's Response: Season 3 Spike wouldn't be kind. He's not aware of what he really feels for Buffy, even though Dru told him, and he's fighting it. So he's being extra abrasive. :D

Reviewer: guest Anonymous Liked [Report This]
Date: 10/18/2009 - 05:10 pm Title: Chapter 2

I can see where some people may have a problem with this Spike. I guess some people like the Spike who would do anything for Buffy no matter how bad she treats him. I guess some want him to be her good faithful dog no matter if she treats him like dirt. While I do love that Spike is the type of man who does whatever he can for his lady love. That is one of my favorite things about Spike. That he is faithful to his women. I don't like seeing Spike taking crap from Buffy or Dru just because he loves them. I hate it when I see that happen in real life. Someone using another person because they know the other person will let them walk all over their feelings. It makes me sad for that person who is just being used and angry at the person who is using them. I love it when Spike stands up for himself and when writers have him stand up for himself during season 6. I also think some people have to understand that this is season 3 Spike. The Spike that hasn't really realize the type of feelings he has for Buffy. He has the memories of the feelings but he hasn't realized it yet himself. But I always thought Spike felt something for Buffy since the beginning. He just didn't realize it or didn't want to admit it. Like Dru told him that she is always there around him. That he is always thinking about her. Another good thing you did is that he was a little soft for Dawn and even Willow in this chapter when he hinted at Buffy that she should talk to Willow . That Spike always had feelings and can feel for people even when he was the 'Big Bad' I think that is why many people fell in love with the character of Spike. He may have been evil at first but he still had feelings and emotions. He still had this human side to him. He still had soft spots to him. That he was always different from other vampires. From his vampire Angelus, Dru, Darla, The Master. They were just all pure evil. I think Dru might have a soft spot to her as well. Maybe. Anyways, I do love this story so far. I think you get Spike the way I get him. That even when he was the 'Big Bad' he still can be a big softy. So, this Spike may not take crap from Buffy or anybody else. But I don't think he is going to completely evil or mean to them. I don't think Spike doesn't have it in him. I think he is really going to be soft for Dawn just like the other Spike. Somethings me that at least. I can't wait to see what happens next.

Author's Response: That's exactly what I was trying to do! I see Spike that way too! I'm so glad you liked it! Thank you! Some people are having problems. That's why I put up the warning.

Reviewer: romy Anonymous Liked [Report This]
Date: 10/18/2009 - 12:32 pm Title: Chapter 2

This is a different Spike and I think the way he treats Buffy is a bit harsh but she has it coming. Spike was like this before he fell in love with Buffy and before she had him whipped. I really like the loving and sensitive Spike but S6 was so screwed up! And I like how you sort of "interfere" at the beginning of their relationship before it gets terrible. That means they do have a chance to make things right, right?
Anyway.. I love it! =)

Author's Response: This is S3 Spike, not willing to take the shit. I love the loving and sensitive Spike too, but I wanted to explore this one. They both have things to learn, but you know how it will end up. :D I'm so glad you're enjoying it! Thank you!

Reviewer: Bridget Anonymous Liked [Report This]
Date: 10/18/2009 - 12:25 pm Title: Chapter 2

Great concept for a story. I wonder how this will affect
Buffy and Spike's relationship. I would think that it would have a good effect but the feelings that Spike had for Buffy will still develop. Buffy on the other hand
will see Spike and herself in a different light.i

Author's Response: I'm so glad you like it! Thank you! It's a learning process for both of them.

Reviewer: cordykitten Signed Liked [Report This]
Date: 10/18/2009 - 11:08 am Title: Chapter 2

Mmmh seems that Buffy noticed that Spike was different now that she saw him. Not bad, I didn't know how long it would take her to notice that.
Spike is acting different. More wilder?
Sounds to me like a good thing that Rack is gone now. He was dangerous.
But isn't it interesting... Spike was stroking Dawn's hair comfortingly till he noticed what he was doing.
Looking forward to more; seems both Buffy and Spike will have to struggle a bit till they know what they want / where they want to go or not.

Author's Response: They're both a bit conflicted at this point, as Spike showed with Dawn. :) That side of him always exists. Thank you for liking it! Some people are having problems with this take-no-shit Spike. I'm so glad you're enjoying it.

Reviewer: Kirsty Signed Liked [Report This]
Date: 10/18/2009 - 09:31 am Title: Chapter 2

I actually feel bad for Buffy.. She's struggling and Spike's being a jerk (unlike before they shared a night together) which much add to her confusion.. Spike's making her feel something and he's the only one.. yeah no happy feelings there..
And Big Bad Spike.. what will come of him.. He won't stay all so evil I'm sure..
Still liking the story.. and I like that there is both Spike and Buffy's thoughts and feelings.. After the first chapter I thought maybe it's all about Spike.

And by the way, Love the banner. Spike is sexy.

Author's Response: It will be mostly Buffy's point of view, because Spike's agenda is ambiguous, even to himself. But you know where he'll end up and why. :D I'm so glad you're liking it! Thank you! A friend of mine did the banner. She finds Spike as droolworthy as I do. :D

Reviewer: Kirsty Signed Liked [Report This]
Date: 10/18/2009 - 09:21 am Title: Chapter 1

"Too bloody romantic, that was his problem"
and now he's all evil.. how will Buffy react? This Spike still hates her.. they have basically no history between them other than hatered.. (For Bufffy there is)
looks to be very interesting story and somewhat different than most..
I like it.. so far at least..
And I'm so happy to see you have a new story :)

Author's Response: I'm so glad you're liking it! Thank you! I'm kind of treading the line here, but badass Spike is so much fun to play with! :D

Reviewer: betty Anonymous Liked [Report This]
Date: 10/18/2009 - 05:26 am Title: Chapter 2

I'm enjoying this story, but somehow I can't help feeling more for Buffy than for Spike in this one. She is way more vulnerable and damaged after all the trauma she's been through, and he just doesn't realize it -- without the love, he seems so callously dismissive or cavalier or something. Plus he's full of anger, mostly misdirected at her (since it isn't all her fault that he's so "whipped" -- the Initiative and his own nature have contributed just as much), rather than unrequited love, which is more poignant and moving, usually.

So it looks like we won't get an abusive Buffy from you in this version of S6, but I hope that doesn't mean an abusive (emotionally or otherwise) Spike this time around instead. Plus I can't see this Spike ever getting a soul for her even if we did get a bathroom scene, and I have to admit that I've always really liked soulful Spike -- I love that he went to such lengths for her.

One other thing: S6 Buffy really took Spike's love for granted, which was bad, but also made me think she was already in love with him and counting on those feelings on his part for that reason. Now that S4 Spike has told her he doesn't love her anymore, it has to be pushing her buttons in a major way. Here's another guy she sleeps with, who tells her the next day that he doesn't love her any more. I think an already damaged Buffy would be devastated by this blow, even if she is still unconscious of her feelings for him at this point.

Maybe that's way the emotional stakes of this one seem so much higher? I like it but somehow it has me really on edge, kind of like S6 did (especially when I saw how they were treating each other).

Author's Response: That line between being abusive and telling it like it is was the reason I put up the warning, people’s sensitivities varying so much. But I’m incapable of writing really dark and abusive. For one thing, that would be totally out of character even for the unsouled, badass Spike we have here. The emotional stakes really are higher here, since Buffy has treated Spike badly enough to know in her heart that she deserves the loss of love. That will help Spike’s agenda, ambiguous at the moment. But you know where he’ll end up and why. :D I like both souled and unsouled Spike and tend to swing back and forth between them. My next story will have a souled Spike, just as my last one did.

Reviewer: AMI Signed Liked [Report This]
Date: 10/18/2009 - 04:03 am Title: Chapter 2

LOVE THIS!! Spike is so bad ass, just the way he should be. Not Buffy's friggin' whipping boy! And he's evil, but has a heart, he wasn't mean to Dawn cause she had been nice to him.Good for him for killing Rack...that means no veiny! Willow. And I love that he's throwing Buffy for a loop. She doesn't know what to think. lol I LOVE sexy, rude, crude Spike.
Buffy will be begging soon. haha .Can't wait .

I'm worried for S6 Spike if he comes back tho. I love him and don't want things to get worse for him. :( But I trust you with our vamp so I know things will work out eventually. :)

I adore this story! Can't wait for tomorrow's chappie.

Author's Response: S6 Spike will find things a lot better :D I'm so glad you're liking this. Some people are having problems, which is why I put up the warning. But bad Spike is so much fun to play with! Thank you for liking it!

Reviewer: victoria2 Anonymous [Report This]
Date: 10/18/2009 - 02:39 am Title: Chapter 2

You know I hated season 6 too, but Spike wasn't exactly a saint in it either. They both had their issues although I often thought it was just the writers that did.

I love your writing but for some reason with each subsequent story your Spike keeps getting darker.

Really not enjoying where this is going. Honestly I found myself wishing that Buffy would just stake him.

I guess that means that its not the story for me huh?

I think I'll go read one of your earlier ones and skip the rest of this one.

Author's Response: No, Spike wasn't a saint either in S6, but you have to admit Buffy behaved far worse than he. This story reverses the positions. Conflict has tension and, for fun, I wanted to explore a really badass, unloving Spike. But being Spike, you know where he'll end up and why. :D I'm not capable of writing a truly dark Spike because that would be totally out of character for him. This one has an agenda, which is ambiguous at the moment but will become evident. That it's hidden at the moment is why I put up the warning. (My next story has a souled Spike. :D)

Reviewer: BlueEyes Anonymous Liked [Report This]
Date: 10/18/2009 - 12:56 am Title: Chapter 2

I am glad your taking this route I do like the idea of him not taking any shit from Buffy and Company but was concern from the beginning that you might make him evil. I'm glad to see you got him to the perfect blend. Look forward to more chapters and see how they play.

Author's Response: He's got a harder edge here, but Spike was always that combination of killer and caring. That's what makes him so compelling a character, never truly evil, and I couldn't write him in any other way and remain true to his character. I'm so glad you like it! Thank you!

Reviewer: Pam S Anonymous Liked [Report This]
Date: 10/18/2009 - 12:26 am Title: Chapter 2

Nice change for Spike.. a little more manly and not such a whipping boy.. Love's Bitch. But I assume over time it will change. As much as he won't want it to..

Enjoying this Spike... nice twist..

Author's Response: Canon Spike made that painful, humiliating journey because he loved Buffy. This Spike isn't prepared to do that. Oh, he'll change, but he's not going to be whipped. :) Thank you for enjoying it!

Reviewer: Anonymous Liked [Report This]
Date: 10/17/2009 - 11:18 pm Title: Chapter 2

I really like your stories, both for the great premises showing us the different paths the characters we know could have taken and the language you use in their thoughts and feelings. Spike's thoughts in the first chapter are so great!

I was wondering just what you meant by not PC. Not politically correct because it involves a strong man being a vicious, abusive bastard toward a woman in a sexual relationship? Because I usually love the endings to your stories, but I don't know if I could read more than a few chapters of that kind of real-world problem.

Author's Response: I'm not capable of writing a truly vicious, abusive bastard. And Spike, with his heart, isn't really capable of being that. But he's going to hit back a bit, mostly verbally, and I did want to warn people who might be upset by that. It's not that dark, honest!

Reviewer: guest Anonymous Liked [Report This]
Date: 10/17/2009 - 05:53 pm Title: Chapter 1

I think I'm going to love this. Spike isn't going to take any of Buffy's crap. Buffy is going to learn you can't treat someone even a vampire like her personal punching bag especially a vampire who loves and just wants to help her. I was so mad at Buffy during season 6 for that. For using the feelings that Spike has for her and treat him like dirt. But I did feel bad for her too for being pull out of her peace and she thought she was done. Then she comes back and it is worst than it was before she died. Having to take care of Dawn and worrying how she is going to pay for everything. so, I do hope that her friends and Giles for leaving her at the worst time have it coming as well either from Spike or Buffy herself. All I can say is, Go Spike! Spike really is the best character ever.
I'm a little worried when you wrote in your author's note that there are parts that are not politically correct. i don't really care much for really dark stories so I hope that it isn't too bad.

Author's Response: I was mad with Buffy too about that, which is how this story came about. But I'm not really capable of writing truly dark stories, so it won't be too bad. I just thought I'd better warn people just in case.

Reviewer: daydreamer Anonymous Liked [Report This]
Date: 10/17/2009 - 05:33 pm Title: Chapter 1

I've seen alot of "future spike" going back in time to prove his love to younger Buffy, or save her heartache, etc... It's cool to see past Spike go to the future ~ a nice twist. Can't wait to see what happens

Author's Response: I thought everyone would have fun with that. :D Thank you for liking it!

Reviewer: jen Anonymous Liked [Report This]
Date: 10/17/2009 - 05:31 pm Title: Chapter 1

Looking forward to the updates!

Author's Response: I'm so glad you like it! Thank you!

Reviewer: ELLIE Anonymous Liked [Report This]
Date: 10/17/2009 - 02:45 pm Title: Chapter 1

IM so excited about this fic....It looks really good! Please update soon

Author's Response: Thank you! I'm so glad you like it! The next chapter will be up late tonight

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