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Reviewer: cordykitten Signed Liked [Report This]
Date: 05/12/2007 - 08:13 pm Title: Chapter Thirty-Two

William likes to read himself in the papers... he plays a dangerous game. Too dangerous; Angelus happened. *big sigh* And this is the start of Spike the mastervampire. In this way that he doesn't want to do what Angelus says any longer, nothing more.

Author's Response: Yeah, Angelus doesn't temper his punishments when he's angry. It's a hard thing to recover from, but Spike ultimately learns from the experience, which it good. Thanks for reviewing. :)

Reviewer: Vette Anonymous Liked [Report This]
Date: 04/28/2007 - 12:00 pm Title: Chapter Thirty-Two

Very powerful chapter where William sheds more of his humanity and learns a painful lesson in the pecking order of his new family. His desire for attention from the human world to be feared and discussed publically contrasts to the unimportant status within his own vampire family. The more things change, the more they stay the same as he trades human bullies and snobs for vampire ones. In your writing we are seeing the birth of Spike as he breaks out of the shell of timid and victimized William to someone who will now fight back. Win or lose, his determination to discover his inner strengths. to persevere, to exist past his hurdles thrown his way are what make him the master vampire that ultimately will cross paths with his third slayer.

I love the way your write and I am enjoying this story.

Author's Response: Very aptly put, Vette. Thanks for the review. I'm glad you like the story. :)

Reviewer: anabel Anonymous Liked [Report This]
Date: 04/28/2007 - 12:09 am Title: Chapter Thirty-Two

Fris than nothing: GRAET STORI!!!
Now, i read this storie twice, i’m thinking this spike it’s gona a develop a diferent personality from the spike from the original cannon, because, the original never experimernt real love, only from his mother, no from cecily or drusilla, he always be jealousy from the atentions betwen drusilla and angelus (her daddy) he really loves dursilla!!! Many of the conflics betwen thems comes from this. But this spilkes had the oportunity of enjoy real love, love and be love, he already had evrything he deram about, but unfortunately he lost’ it, this factor most afect the develop of his personality and caracter!!!!! For best? For worst? Thats depens of you, but if i lost somthig so bigger, i become bitter and hopelessly, his relationship whit drusilla most be afected too, now he most see her like a palid refleccion of what love, pasion and belogin means!!!
p.d. sorry for my english, im a good reader but not very well writting, sorry, my thin it’s the spanish


Author's Response: Don't worry about your English, anabel. I appreciate the review . I'm so glad you like the story, and I hope I can continue to make each chapter enjoyable for you. Thanks so much for taking the time to tell me what you think. :)

Reviewer: Krystal Anonymous Liked [Report This]
Date: 04/24/2007 - 08:38 pm Title: Chapter Thirty-Two

More, more, more por favor!!!!! Asap please =)

Author's Response: lol. As soon as I can. I promise. I'm glad you like it. :)

Reviewer: All4Spike Signed Liked [Report This]
Date: 04/20/2007 - 09:42 pm Title: Chapter Thirty-Two

I love the atmosphere you're creating here with the development of Spike... and of course I'm desperately wanting to know what happened to Buffy and what the situation is back in the future... but of course that is exactly what you intended isn't it?

Impatiently awaiting more updates....

Author's Response: Yep, that's exactly what I intended. I'm evil like that. :P I'm glad you like the story, even without Buffy. Thanks for reviewing!

Reviewer: anabelhy Anonymous Liked [Report This]
Date: 04/20/2007 - 02:58 am Title: Chapter Thirty-Two

i can't wait the next update!!!
i wan to know what hppen whit buffy!!!!!, what she gona do???
grat story!

Author's Response: Thank you. I'm glad you like it. :)

Reviewer: mahaloluinoa Anonymous Liked [Report This]
Date: 04/19/2007 - 03:37 pm Title: Chapter Thirty-Two

rape is never a easy topic to put into a fic but you made it fit the story and you did not make it over the top or go into to of hardcore details. it seems William is trying to find himself and this allthough being horrible to happen to anyone will be a unlife changing event for him to move past from. I'm not sure how he will face the other now or if he will take all of his hiding habits and personality changes he has been hiding for so long from everyone else and just no longer care and get into everyones face with it. I am looking forward to the fall out effects from this happening to him. Great story does not seem to be rnough to cover it but great story.

Author's Response: I feel that the effects of the rape are more important than the details of it, so I did strive not to be too graphic in that respect. I know it was hard to read, but I'm happy to hear you understand why it took place and that it won't stop you from reading in the future. Thank you so much for the review. :)

Reviewer: spooky_lemur Anonymous Liked [Report This]
Date: 04/19/2007 - 03:26 pm Title: Chapter Thirty-Two

Heartbreaking events and still so many thoughts of his love. This was a brutal chap. to read after I start this story last night and how it started out to getting to this point. It is really a battle of wills going on much more then just the act but it seemed to have to happen in orde for William to make a change.

I like this, it is log but so worth it do you have any other stories online? I would love to read any of your work.

Author's Response: I think a lot of people were shocked by the sudden change in tone from Part I of the story to Part II. I know this part is a little harder to read, but I'm so glad to hear that you like it anyway. Thanks so much for reviewing! :) Right now, this is the only story I'm working on. I have another spuffy fanfic, but it's on indefinite hiatus until this one is finished. The other one needs a major overhaul, anyway. But when I get to working on it, I will definitely let you know! :)

Reviewer: hotarus_sister Anonymous [Report This]
Date: 04/19/2007 - 03:16 pm Title: Chapter Thirty-Two

Ive never read anything like this and it has to be the best story of spike i have ever read i think its is so like who he was on the show you are doing a geat job here

Author's Response: Thank you! I want very much to stay true to the character, because my love for the character was what inspired me to write this. I'm so glad you think I am doing a good job. :)

Reviewer: Switchblade Kross Anonymous Liked [Report This]
Date: 04/19/2007 - 03:10 pm Title: Chapter Thirty-Two

I think I'm review # 1000!
How cool is that!
Ok this was a terrible thing to happen to William but he must have known on some level Angelus was going to hurt him sooner or later and I hope Spike not only gets even he never sinks to Angelus level!

Fantastic update more soon please!!!
Pretty please?
:D

Author's Response: I am working on an update as we speak, so hopefully it won't be too much longer. Thanks so much for reviewing and helping me hit that 1000 mark! :)

Reviewer: ZzzHollowSleepszzZ Anonymous Liked [Report This]
Date: 04/19/2007 - 03:07 pm Title: Chapter Thirty-Two

Poor Spike!!! I hope he can recover from this and get out of here and start learning to fight to protect himself.
Please more~

Author's Response: I'm glad you liked it. Thanks for the review. :)

Reviewer: jasesaurus Anonymous Liked [Report This]
Date: 04/19/2007 - 03:03 pm Title: Chapter Thirty-Two

This gives new meaning to the word hate. Is Angels soul coming on soon? I hope he suffers like no other and the years fly by for William cause heis just in so much pain right now and everyones whipped dog.


Author's Response: Don't worry, I'm fairly certain William's days as a "whipped dog" are drawing to a close. :) Thanks for the review!

Reviewer: tytal Anonymous Liked [Report This]
Date: 04/19/2007 - 03:00 pm Title: Chapter Thirty-Two

Spike is the better man
Umm... Man-moster and he may be beaten down now but he will make a come back I'm cheering for him!
Mind blowing storyl here in book 2 in the making of Spike and you handled the fight part well really well plotted out story wtiting here I am quite a fan.

Author's Response: Thanks so much, tytal. I'm glad you are enjoying the story. :)

Reviewer: HolyMoley Anonymous Liked [Report This]
Date: 04/19/2007 - 02:55 pm Title: Chapter Thirty-Two

I am a die hard fan of this fic and it just draws me in all the more every time there is a new page added.
Best story by far on the net!

Author's Response: What a nice thing to say! I am so incredibly flattered that you think so hightly of my story. Thank you. :)

Reviewer: ll_x_x_ll Anonymous Liked [Report This]
Date: 04/19/2007 - 02:52 pm Title: Chapter Thirty-Two

You are always so far with new posts but when I read this I just say more more more more more!!!!!!!


Author's Response: Hey, I love a good show of enthusiasm. Thanks! :)

Reviewer: Sam Anonymous Liked [Report This]
Date: 04/19/2007 - 02:33 pm Title: Chapter Thirty-Two

OMG. I've reviewed many times before and don't really want to repeat myself but this story is just fabulous. I'm not even really missing the Spuffy (I know you'll get there eventually) because I'm hooked reading your take on what happens to William/Spike. You end this chapter still referring to William as William, I'll have to wait and see if he starts the next one as Spike now his hatred of Angelus has been born? Looking forward to more and more of this - asap PLEASE.

Author's Response: At the moment, William is still, technically, William. But that won't last, as we all know. I'm glad you liked the chapter, Sam. I always love reading your thoughts, so thanks for taking the time to review. :)

Reviewer: sue Anonymous Liked [Report This]
Date: 04/19/2007 - 02:14 pm Title: Chapter Thirty-Two

The defining moment between the two Aurelius demons: one dominating the other. Physical, violent, bloody. Debasement, with an audience. Angelus's strike to assert his control, his leadership, his power will, ironically, merely work the other way. Spike, left with his pain and humiliation is even now rational enough to understand that. In flaunting his power, Angelus loses his last vestige of admiration from Spike and, more importantly, the younger vampire's adherence to the expected pecking order of their quartet. There will be no more of that. Here, perhaps, is the birth of William the vampire, no longer the newest member of a family but just theirs now in name, not nature. Not any more. Here endeth Angelus's last lesson.

Your gripping, graphic chapter sees the emergence of Spike: argumentative, sarcastic, insightful and resolute. William would have crumbled under such base treatment. Spike learns from it; this harsh lesson frees him from the servitude of family that has been with him throughout life and beyond - that awful moment of capture brought not surrender, rather, his liberation.

Look forward to update.

Author's Response: I just loved reading your review, sue. It's like every single thing I was hoping to convey in this chapter you saw and understood implicitely. I can't tell you how great that makes me feel. Thank you so much for taking the time to leave me such wonderful feedback. :)

Reviewer: Forbidden Loves Anonymous Liked [Report This]
Date: 04/19/2007 - 01:51 pm Title: Chapter Thirty-Two

I went and reread all of this story last night and I keep thinking with Buffy going back in time knowing what she did and then playing the role of Elizabeth and not telling William she knew him or knew he got turned in a lot of ways she is sort of irreversibly sort of responsible for a lot of the pain William goes through. She completely inadvertently changed every aspect of his life and then too his death and I'm not sure how well that is going to play out for her later down the line when they come face to face cause to really realize in full all of the awful things that happened to him to get to 120 plus years in the future again and see her again I do not think it will be a happy moment for him it be more like a complete betrayal by her when he has kind of immortalized her in his mind.

Ok this chapter was really like a meeting of two lions coming together cause I think A. realized W. was more then he anticipated probably up until now he thought of W. as nothing more then a toy of Dru's or a puppy he could teach new tricks. And then for W. to strike out at him and to actually knock A. to the ground the feud of the century was no on.

I am excited cause from here on out all the dynamics have changed.

Author's Response: That is a very astute observation. Buffy always knew the risks of becoming involved with William, and she did it anyway, without regard to what harm it might cause him. Naturally, that won't be without its consequences. Thanks for the review. :)

Reviewer: luridmuse Anonymous Liked [Report This]
Date: 04/19/2007 - 01:39 pm Title: Chapter Thirty-Two

The first sparks of Spikes rebellious nature and of things to come are about to happen. Just the fact that Angelus knew to taunt Spike with Elizabeths name gave me as the reader her enough reason to hate him even before the rape took place. I can see why Spike goes out of his way to become a thorn in Angel or Angelus side because of his hate towards him. Vampire dominance or the under belly of the evil worlds society rules Spike will have to become stronger to get his revenge. Overwhelming reactions to this update I am dying here for more.

Author's Response: I'm glad you liked it, luridmuse. Thank you for taking the time to review. :)

Reviewer: Tears of the Moon Anonymous Liked [Report This]
Date: 04/19/2007 - 01:31 pm Title: Chapter Thirty-Two

I am glad to see he is holding back on torturing unless needed and simply killing to eat now. He does not seem to want to become as devious and as evil as the others. Intense page and a lot of heartbreak but done with so much introspection of new Spike thoughts you give a real emotions and heart of the man in the monster. I think Drusilla did in a way want to comfort him cause on some level she too is just another victim of Angelus as well and God only knows what he did to her. This story continues to intrigue me and I want to read more of it all the time.



Author's Response: lol. Discerning fellow that he is, William has decided that only certain people are deserving of being tortured, but he doesn't mind killing the rest for revenge and food. Still, I think it does show a definite contrast between him and Angelus. It's a contrast that's always intrigued me and that I'm planning to explore in more detail. I know the content of the chapter was hard to read, but I'm so glad you enjoyed it anyway. And I completely agree with you about Drusilla. She was an innocent victim once, and whatever she has become since has been molded by Angelus and, to a lesser extent, Darla. Thanks so much for the review. I really love hearing your thoughts! :)

Reviewer: Forbidden Loves Anonymous Liked [Report This]
Date: 04/19/2007 - 01:25 pm Title: Chapter Thirty-Two

I'm always so excited to see more of this story come up and its as excellent as ever I cannot wait for more!

Author's Response: Thanks so much! It's always a pleasure to read your reviews. :)

Reviewer: akarinacj Anonymous Liked [Report This]
Date: 04/19/2007 - 07:29 am Title: Chapter Thirty-Two

Fantastic read as always. You never disappoint.

Very well explained the reason why he doesn´t want to continue torturing his victims. Make very much sense with the Spike from canon.

I like very much the way you are creating Spike. Before I read your story I had always wondered why he changed his name to Spike. I mean I new from canon that it had to do with the railroad spikes he put through his victims head, of course. But I couldn´t understand why he didn´t remain William the Bloody. I mean why he had to renegade from his name. But the way you explained it, With the loss of his own identity where Angelus is telling him that he is not William anymore, his confusion and at the same time his search for a new identity.
He is so acting like at rebel teenager... The change of image, the change of accent, the cigarettes, the cockiness , the giddiness, and most of all the not thinking about the consequence of his actions.:

When Angelus says:

“You dumped that Havisham person in a manure pile outside a livery less than a block from here!”

William had forgotten about that.

“Well, I’m willing to admit that one was rather reckless—”

It almost made me laugh. I could just see Spikes face in front of me with that particular expression of his when he just found out that he made a mistake and his "ups" attitude about it.
And there is nothing that angers a parent more than when a "snotty child" answers back and doesn.t have respect for his elders.

And here Angelus was the angry father, who just got struck by his disrespectful son...

It´s said that most of the times rape is more about dominance than sex, even though it was creepy to read. Specially afterwards when William thinks about it as something not planned but anticipated, Like that Angelus was waiting for an excuse to do just that to him... The times he woke up and Angelus was starring at him. "Uff"

The last sentence of the chapter was very interesting:
"I don´t have to do what you say, anymore"
Can´t wait to see what happens next!!!!!




Author's Response: That rebellious teenager analogy is absolutely perfect! In the early weeks, William was like a wide-eyed boy following Angelus' lead. Now, he's starting to think for himself, explore his own indentity. Naturally, Angelus isn't really pleased about the burst of independence. He liked having a *student* but he wants to avoid having *competition.* And you're right, rape is about dominance and control, not about sex. Sex is just the most extreme way to control someone...you're taking their most intimate act and taking it by force. I know it was not the most pleasant thing to read about, but your grasp on the dynamics of it is perfect. Thanks so much for the wonderful review. I always love hearing your thoughts. :)

Reviewer: sarah g Anonymous Liked [Report This]
Date: 04/19/2007 - 06:31 am Title: Chapter Thirty-Two

GROSS!!!! WAT A BASTARD!!!!!!!! but of course angelus was going to be a bastard. im so glad that spike/ william hates him, i didnt like him liking angelus, it was unnatural. i love this story so much and am so happy that u updated. im so sad that william has put buffy and the ring to the back of his mind, but as long as he holds on to the love he feels for her its all good. i really hope that william/spike continues to get stronger and go against angelus and not love dru. also i hope that soon enough spike and buffy will meet again and that wen they do things work out well. please update as soon as u can, i cant wait to read more. thanx

Author's Response: I know it was a hard scene to get through, but I'm glad I didn't chase you away. :) I think it was only natural for William to cling to Angelus at first. After all, Angelus played "father" to him in his earliest days as a vampire. But it couldn't last. William/Spike is much too intelligent to allow himself to be bullied. Although he's struggling to put Buffy into the back of his mind, you're right, he does love her. In a way, he's showing love even when he's trying not to think of her, because he doesn't think he's worthy of her memories now. I'm glad you liked the chapter and thanks so much for reviewing. :)

Reviewer: Alex Anonymous Liked [Report This]
Date: 04/19/2007 - 06:27 am Title: Chapter Thirty-Two

And here ends the "friendship" between Spike and Angelus...

Author's Response: Couldn't last forever. :P

Reviewer: BuffyRat Anonymous Liked [Report This]
Date: 04/19/2007 - 04:25 am Title: Chapter Thirty-Two

An undeniable event. So well placed into the history. Still so very dark. A marvelous chapter. Anger can be such a strong motivator. I wonder how he will change now.

Author's Response: I'm glad you liked it. Thanks for reviewing! :)

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